Comments on: Ordnance Survey goes free – some initial thoughts http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145 Church organ, maps, canals, cider. Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:17:09 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Charles http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145&cpage=1#comment-825 Charles Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:33:43 +0000 http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145#comment-825 Thanks for the mention of the Free Our Data campaign. Yes, it's nice to have a result. It will be interesting to see if one can produce a paper map. If derived data is wiped out as a restriction (which is what Tim Berners-Lee said had been a continuing thorn in the side of those he spoke to) then why not produce special printed maps from the online? I think if the copyright is released, OSM will - and should - fall on it like a wolf on raw meat. Grab it once - that's enough. But sure, let's wait for the consultation and push for the broadest release possible. Thanks for the mention of the Free Our Data campaign. Yes, it’s nice to have a result.

It will be interesting to see if one can produce a paper map. If derived data is wiped out as a restriction (which is what Tim Berners-Lee said had been a continuing thorn in the side of those he spoke to) then why not produce special printed maps from the online?

I think if the copyright is released, OSM will – and should – fall on it like a wolf on raw meat. Grab it once – that’s enough.

But sure, let’s wait for the consultation and push for the broadest release possible.

]]> By: Richard http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145&cpage=1#comment-822 Richard Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:50:40 +0000 http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145#comment-822 1. Absolutely, OS don't seem to be overjoyed. But they're an executive agency (ok, strictly speaking a trading fund), not a policy-setting department. They do what they're told... in theory at least. 2. Not my understanding at all. They are not open-sourcing the cartography and (probably) some of the particular datasets behind the Explorers and Landrangers, yes. But that's completely different from saying "the licence will forbid you to print the map data out", which is what would create an incompatibility. All this is speculation until the consultation starts on the data and the licence, of course, but the general assumption thus far is Meridian2 and a public domain-like licence - very possibly a revised form of the Click-Use PSI licence. 1. Absolutely, OS don’t seem to be overjoyed. But they’re an executive agency (ok, strictly speaking a trading fund), not a policy-setting department. They do what they’re told… in theory at least.

2. Not my understanding at all. They are not open-sourcing the cartography and (probably) some of the particular datasets behind the Explorers and Landrangers, yes. But that’s completely different from saying “the licence will forbid you to print the map data out”, which is what would create an incompatibility.

All this is speculation until the consultation starts on the data and the licence, of course, but the general assumption thus far is Meridian2 and a public domain-like licence – very possibly a revised form of the Click-Use PSI licence.

]]> By: David Earl http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145&cpage=1#comment-821 David Earl Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:26:35 +0000 http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145#comment-821 Firstly it is not a done deal. From what Steve said, OS don't sound happy at the prospect. Secondly, as I understand it, it doesn't apply to printed maps. Which means it can't be compatible with OSM. Firstly it is not a done deal. From what Steve said, OS don’t sound happy at the prospect.

Secondly, as I understand it, it doesn’t apply to printed maps. Which means it can’t be compatible with OSM.

]]> By: Chris http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145&cpage=1#comment-818 Chris Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:02:26 +0000 http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145#comment-818 Holy shit. William Orbit has a new album out? Er, I mean, yes, potentially good news for OSM. This might mean that we can actually get mapped some places that we'd rather not go, such as the rural backwaters of Wales, the remoter parts of the Highlands, or Barry. *Especially* Barry. On a related note, who are the 25 idiots that voted down your DLF proposal? Holy shit. William Orbit has a new album out?

Er, I mean, yes, potentially good news for OSM. This might mean that we can actually get mapped some places that we’d rather not go, such as the rural backwaters of Wales, the remoter parts of the Highlands, or Barry. *Especially* Barry.

On a related note, who are the 25 idiots that voted down your DLF proposal?

]]> By: Robert (Jamie) Munro http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145&cpage=1#comment-817 Robert (Jamie) Munro Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:09:07 +0000 http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=145#comment-817 I think there will still be a market for Tele Atlas and Navteq because I don't think that OS data can be used for accurate travel time estimation, and therefore good routing. I doubt that speed limits and junction restrictions will be shown, and I expect that it won't know the difference between a windy bumpy narrow A road and a much smoother faster road. I think there will still be a market for Tele Atlas and Navteq because I don’t think that OS data can be used for accurate travel time estimation, and therefore good routing. I doubt that speed limits and junction restrictions will be shown, and I expect that it won’t know the difference between a windy bumpy narrow A road and a much smoother faster road.

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